Talk:Worship - Revision history

3nki at 16:32, 2 January 2013

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3nki: /* Verifying Worship Information */

2011-08-11T21:13:49Z

Verifying Worship Information

Kerd at 03:18, 19 July 2011

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Waite at 14:09, 13 November 2009

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3nki: /* = */

2009-11-13T00:56:41Z

Slowdraw: regarding Bhyss worship

2009-11-12T21:31:42Z

regarding Bhyss worship

Llanor at 20:15, 22 October 2009

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Rhodie at 01:55, 28 August 2008

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Arcano: lol whoops

2008-05-14T19:10:45Z

lol whoops

Arcano at 19:10, 14 May 2008

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 Verified [[Quixoltan  |Quixoltan]] spell cost penalty.  Cen Qxl costs 96mana for enchant, athiest/kra/roix cost 90.
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 So, I think Tor does nothing for HP gains. Pre tor, my kzn rog got 7-9 for hp gains... now they still do. Also should be noted that the mana gains have gone down, but I still get 2 max, only less frequently.
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 I'm starting to think that Quixoltan does not actually help with mana gains.  I've got a Centaur Mage worshipping Quixoltan that averages less than 7 mana per level at lowmort, with a TON of 3 mana gains.  Seems low for a god that is supposed to help mana gains.--[[User:Kerdor|Kerdor]] 11:43, 7 January 2007 (CST)
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 Tinkered around with open hand damage.  The ones that weakened were obvious, but only Gorn produced an easy to see difference.  I was testing with a level 12 monk though, so not sure if I was getting a large enough spread.  The ones that looked the same were Qxl, Rxa, Shz, Tor, Wer --[[User:Masamune|Masamune]] 20:35, 10 January 2007 (CST)
 Hope I got this right.  Qxl spells are 57 tics in duration (tested on Fly), Shiz is 50, Kra/Athiest is 48.  20%>Athiest (Edited main worship page) --[[User:Kerdor|Kerdor]] 17:59, 11 January 2007 (CST)

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	I ran an athiest mage with one worshipping Bhyss. On more than one occassion, we had multiple successive rounds in which we cast disint at the exact same time. Leads me to believe that Bhyss doesn't have a spell lag penalty, or at least doesn't for damage spells. If anyone definitively proves I'm wrong, feel free to edit/flame. :) --[[User:Neyne\|Neyne]] 01:39, 26 August 2007 (CDT)		I ran an athiest mage with one worshipping Bhyss. On more than one occassion, we had multiple successive rounds in which we cast disint at the exact same time. Leads me to believe that Bhyss doesn't have a spell lag penalty, or at least doesn't for damage spells. If anyone definitively proves I'm wrong, feel free to edit/flame. :) --[[User:Neyne\|Neyne]] 01:39, 26 August 2007 (CDT)
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		+	i'm running a qxl sor through now and i've been checking spell costs - i don't think qxl affects spell cost at all (wiki currently says +5%). not sure about lag yet, testing that as well... --[[User:3nki\|3nki]] 16:13, 11 August 2011 (CDT)

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	I would mark it as "same". Devotion stats are handled on a separate page. I think we all understand that extra int yields more mana, extra con more hp, extra str more HR/DR, etc. No need to complicate the worship table with this information. [[User:Waite\|Waite]] 14:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)		I would mark it as "same". Devotion stats are handled on a separate page. I think we all understand that extra int yields more mana, extra con more hp, extra str more HR/DR, etc. No need to complicate the worship table with this information. [[User:Waite\|Waite]] 14:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
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		+	Zephan> You almost dull crom's Pointy Stick, but Tul-Sith steadies your hand!
		+	[228 Hero War Spr Tul M ] Zephan the Exemplary Slayer

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	from discussions in mud, bhy only gives a slight bump to mana gains when devoted due to the extra int point. not sure how to reference that in the chart, maybe "better" and light blue with a foot note explaining that you need to be devoted to see a benefit?--[[User:3nki\|3nki]] 00:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)		from discussions in mud, bhy only gives a slight bump to mana gains when devoted due to the extra int point. not sure how to reference that in the chart, maybe "better" and light blue with a foot note explaining that you need to be devoted to see a benefit?--[[User:3nki\|3nki]] 00:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
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		+	I would mark it as "same". Devotion stats are handled on a separate page. I think we all understand that extra int yields more mana, extra con more hp, extra str more HR/DR, etc. No need to complicate the worship table with this information. [[User:Waite\|Waite]] 14:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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	The worship page displays Bhyss as giving worse mana gains when leveling, but the cell's background is light blue. I'm not 100% on it being better mana gains, so I'm going to leave it alone for somebody who knows for sure to change it or post which is the case here.--[[User:Slowdraw\|Slowdraw]] 21:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)		The worship page displays Bhyss as giving worse mana gains when leveling, but the cell's background is light blue. I'm not 100% on it being better mana gains, so I'm going to leave it alone for somebody who knows for sure to change it or post which is the case here.--[[User:Slowdraw\|Slowdraw]] 21:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
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		+	from discussions in mud, bhy only gives a slight bump to mana gains when devoted due to the extra int point. not sure how to reference that in the chart, maybe "better" and light blue with a foot note explaining that you need to be devoted to see a benefit?--[[User:3nki\|3nki]] 00:56, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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	After worshipping Gorn, my toss fail lag went from 5 rounds to 3. I'm guessing this is because toss is a monk skill. --[[User:MooNFisH\|Llanor]] 20:15, 22 October 2009 (UTC)		After worshipping Gorn, my toss fail lag went from 5 rounds to 3. I'm guessing this is because toss is a monk skill. --[[User:MooNFisH\|Llanor]] 20:15, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
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		+	The worship page displays Bhyss as giving worse mana gains when leveling, but the cell's background is light blue. I'm not 100% on it being better mana gains, so I'm going to leave it alone for somebody who knows for sure to change it or post which is the case here.--[[User:Slowdraw\|Slowdraw]] 21:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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	I thought all gods still would occasionally weaken, even if they have good responses? --[[User:Arcano\|Arcano]] 15:10, 14 May 2008 (EDT)		I thought all gods still would occasionally weaken, even if they have good responses? --[[User:Arcano\|Arcano]] 15:10, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
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		+	After worshipping Gorn, my toss fail lag went from 5 rounds to 3. I'm guessing this is because toss is a monk skill. --[[User:MooNFisH\|Llanor]] 20:15, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

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 I didn't even know gods modified this, but Shizaga appears to have a reduced xp penalty for fleeing. Two hero characters, one shz one athiest, fled a couple times from the same mob: the shz lost ~30 each time, the ath lost ~60 each time. Weird.--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 01:25, 31 August 2007 (CDT)
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 I thought all gods still would occasionally weaken, even if they have good responses? --[[User:Arcano|Arcano]] 15:10, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

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	I'm taking it upon myself to make sure that the information in our worship table is correct. I'll be recording raw data from my experiments here. [[User:Waite\|Waite]] 14:27, 6 May 2006 (EDT)		I'm taking it upon myself to make sure that the information in our worship table is correct. I'll be recording raw data from my experiments here. [[User:Waite\|Waite]] 14:27, 6 May 2006 (EDT)

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+== Verifying Worship Inform--[[User:Arcano|Arcano]] 15:10, 14 May 2008 (EDT)ation ==
 I'm taking it upon myself to make sure that the information in our worship table is correct.  I'll be recording raw data from my experiments here.  [[User:Waite|Waite]] 14:27, 6 May 2006 (EDT)
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 I didn't even know gods modified this, but Shizaga appears to have a reduced xp penalty for fleeing. Two hero characters, one shz one athiest, fled a couple times from the same mob: the shz lost ~30 each time, the ath lost ~60 each time. Weird.--[[User:Neyne|Neyne]] 01:25, 31 August 2007 (CDT)